Overclocking Red19 Part 1

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Some of you may be aware of AMDs recent price drops, which pretty much halved the price of its new AM2 range. Annoying for those that had purchased a new AM2 processor soon after release - such as myself.

Still, I paid £195 for my 4000X2, which is already discontinued and thus didn't receive a price-drop. Though the similarly spec'd 3800X2 is just over £100 now.

A decent overclock should combat this, as it'll bring my 4000X2 up to the speeds of the more expensive processors - though you can grab a 5000X2 now for just over £220 - around £25 more than I paid for my chip a month or two ago.

The 5000 hits 2.6GHz and has 2 x 512kb of Level 2 Cache. My 4000 hits 2.0GHz at stock, but has the larger (now discontinued) 2 x 1mb Level 2 Cache.

So to make myself feel better, I have to overclock it somewhere near the 2.6GHz of the 5000. Of course, if I was very lucky, the 4000X2 would hit 2.8GHz, equalling an FX-62, which currently retails for just over £560 - a huge saving.

If you re-read the title of this random spewing, you'll see that I've named it Part 1. Part 2 will conclude my overclocking, stating how much (if any) money I have saved, even after AMD's price drops...

Well, so far, so not-so-good. I spent a good hour or so overclocking last night, which involved adjusting various settings in the BIOS (FSB, CPU multiplier, Memory timings, voltages etc.) - then booting into Windows, running CPU-Z to confirm the clock and then Prime95 and SuperPI to check if the clock was stable or not.

I had 23 attempts at overclocking the 4000X2. 23. That seems like a lot to me. Every attempt was noted down, for future reference and to input into a spreadsheet if I feel like it.

I wont go into too much detail, because it'll bore you (if you're not bored already that is!)... but I ended up at 2.4GHz stable. That's a 20% increase over stock speeds - which was achieved with a 240x10 fsb, along with slacker 5-5-5-12 memory timings and 960MHz on the memory.

I had it up to 2.6GHz quite easily, but once it booted into Windows, SuperPI and Prime95 threw up errors almost immediately. 2.8GHz POSTed, but it would hang on the Windows loading screen.

So, tonight I'll be trying to increase the 2.4GHz clock, to ideally 2.8GHz stable, but I'll settle for 2.6GHz. The annoying thing is that others have achieved 3.0GHz stable with a 4000X2, but it's luck of the draw really.

As for temperatures - the CPU idles at around 27'c on stock speeds, but didn't go higher than 32'c when POSTing at 2.8GHz. So cooling isn't holding it back - in fact it's very cool.

One thing is for sure, even at 2.4GHz it's a lot quicker than stock - my SuperPI time was reduced from a poor 41+ seconds to a more respectable ~33 seconds. Still, that's miles off of the new Core2 chips, which have hit <20 seconds. But hey, I like AMD, I'm no fanboi, but they've served me well to date.

Stay tuned for Part 2, which will hopefully detail how I achieved 3billion GHz. Or maybe not.

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Dont worry too much about missing them price drops, its always a shitty feeling when you buy things from the computer market and some event happens soon after, which it always will. Sounds like the overclocks gone well tho, since it really is chip dependant what type of speeds you achieve. I think im gonna have a good crack at an overclock, only at the moment i have no idea how, so i can see a few wasted evenings reading poop.

On a personal note, yes I have joined the dark side as far as intel cpu's go. But then at this point, when i had to buy a whole new computer to upgrade id prob be mad not too. I think AMD's will sell well tho against intel because many people can just upgrade the chips now they have reduced prices and not have to get mobo, etc. I also know the Kentsfield (4x cpu chips) are gonna be out b4 end of year blah blah.... so im gonna be feeling your annoyance too laz. (btw i really dislike intel so this purchase is odd to me).

I also know im gonna kick myself when they release the new graphics cards, thats been the hardest decision for me. I know the new ATI x1950 range is out in about....ooo a week or two! (not sure if that means to buy tho!) And the impressive sounding r600's and g80's from nvidia and ati, bringing in that new directx10 punch in the face. Anyway Simon found me a nice HIS ATI x1900xt for just over £220 on weekly special which also featured an arctic cooling fan design arrangement which sealed the deal for me because i know them ati's are hot and loud when they need to work. I know the nvidia's are primarily faster, but under high resolution and AA & AF the ati's come out champs because of the advanced pixel pipeline arrangement and i need a higher resolution this time.

Anyway enough yap. Can you tell ive got nothing to do at work? Then again when do i? Some of the pooter should start arriving tonight so like i said ill write something with piccies up when i get chance. Id have to say that personally the best part of a new pooter has to be the building part. I dont think ill ever buy one whole again. Then again, never say never.

adamskii


madmans theorum Intel = The Empire: Rich, Powerful, Controlling, Massive, Aggressive, Dominant, Loud. AMD = Rebels: Tactical, Secretive, Specialised, Effective, Dangerous, Wookies.

adamskii


Prob Queenofcarebares Theorum,

madman = Geek, too much time on hands to read internet all day long while at work researching components and thinking up shit to blog.

adamskii


"I think AMD’s will sell well tho against intel because many people can just upgrade the chips now they have reduced prices and not have to get mobo, etc."

The AM2 chips require new motherboards, along with DDR2 memory, so if they're upgrading from 939, then either option (Intel/AMD) will work out the same.

Though I do know that AMD's next set of chips will be compatible with the current AM2 gear - though it might require a small BIOS flash. Which means in the long run I'm saving money. And if in a year or so, Intel is the beefier, then I can simply purchase a new CPU and Motherboard, as everything else (RAM included) is compatible.

I'm gonna try one overclock tonight, with some info I read in Custom PC for the Foxconn board. But I'll leave the 2.6GHz aim for another night...

Matt


what i meant is when intel bring out new gear they usually sort of "start again" each time. Whereas generally AMD try to implement as much as they can. You give a good example ^ & I mean the AMD's will sell well because of the price drops, as in someone can buy a 5000 x2 thingi from say a 3800 or something for an upgrade if they were feeling a bit down about all this new hardware. As for new hardware, mine has all been delayed from scan because of cpu stock shortage and my psu so wont be arriving till next thurs... I can take the wait tho because im off to barnstaples next week as i have the week off. Only when i hear the package arrives ill be desperate to go home again and put it together. Oh fiddlesticks.

madmanskii


Bonus!

I'm happier than before, as it's running at 2.5GHz (faster than 4800+) stable. I upped the voltages on CPU and Memory. Still after that 2.6GHz sweet spot though...

Matt


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